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Better Bond™ Veneer Glue
Color: Extra Dark

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Designed for use with lighter woods like walnut, teak, cherry, mahogany, ebony and more. Better Bond™ Darklig veneer glue minimizes glue line visibility and reduces the effects of the woodworker's worst enemy - "sand-through". Better Bond cold press veneer glue is a thick fiberous-resin filled adhesive that reduces bleed-through and bonds quickly. It is also an excellent gap filling adhesive.

Ultimately, you have decide if your veneer work deserves the best veneer adhesive. Does it? Of course it does but the truth is that you will never know how impressive this adhesive is until you try it. It will only take one project panel to see that this glue works better than any other cold press veneer glue.

For me, the fact that the panels dry very quickly is a major plus. I've also grown accustomed to its forgiveness in application. Instead of requiring a special glue applicator or a measuring device, this glue goes down perfectly with something as simple as a basic glue roller.

The beauty of the BBCP adhesive is that when it's applied correctly, it produces a flawless panel every time. Don't be fooled by veneer adhesives that claim a ridiculously high level of solid content. Click here to understand why solid content tells you nothing about bond strength and how it is often over-estimated for marketing purposes.

Better Bond Cold Press veneer glue is formulated for vacuum press veneering but will also work with other veneer clamping methods.

  • Non-flammable
  • No harmful vapors
  • Dries to a hard film
  • Thick consistency reduces bleed-through
  • Tinted to inconspicuously fill voids in medium tone veneers
  • Does not allow "creep" or movement of the veneers on the substrate

Shelf Life: 12 months
Assembly Time: 15 minutes
Clamp Time: 45-60 minutes

Coverage: Approximately 70 square feet per quart or 280 square feet per gallon


Tips from Joe

  • If you're ordering veneer glue, don't forget a glue roller. It's worth every penny.
  • This adhesive is also an excellent general-purpose woodworking glue.
  • The Better Bond cold press veneer glue (in light, medium, and dark) is suitable for standard thickness veneers only. Thicker veneers require a PPR glue such sa Ultra-CAT™.
  • We also recommend Ultra-CAT instead of standard cold press adhesives for crotch grain veneers.

Size Option
Better Bond cold press veneer glue is available in quart and gallon sizes. Since a gallon of this glue can weigh almost 10 lbs, you can also select a gallon size with an optional empty quart bottle to make it easier to apply glue to the substrate. A "yorker" spout is included with the empty quart bottle.

Questions About Veneer Glue?
Check out the JoeWoodworker Veneer Glue FAQ.




Which color/tone of veneer glue should I use?
It's a common misunderstanding that the color options are available to minimize the visibility of the glue line at the edge of the panel but the glue line is very thin and it's typically not visible at the edges.

The primary use of these color options is to fill the pin holes which are typically found in burl veneer. When working with a burl veneer, it's best to use a veneer glue that matches the color of the wood cells around the voids which are often somewhat darker than the rest of the veneer. Some species such as Karelian birch burl have a very light color for much of the surface area but have very dark burl pockets. It's best to use the medium tone of the cold press glue for these types of veneers.

Will this glue work for bent laminations?
For any type of multi-layer veneering, it is best to use a PPR glue such as Ultra-CAT.

What is the shelf life of this adhesive?
Our supplier specifies 15 months of shelf life. Since our inventory turn-over rate is just under 3 months, our customers can expect 12 months of shelf life.

Can I use this glue even if it is beyond the shelf life?
That is a risk that you have to be willing to take. I would not recommend it and I would not use an expired adhesive for my veneer projects. Typically there are no visual indicators that a glue has exceeded the shelf life and is not suitable for use.

Why is this glue not suitable for thick veneers?
Standard veneer thickness is 1/42". The Better Bond cold press adhesive is perfect for this thickness of veneer. For anything thicker, a PPR glue such as Ultra-CAT is recommended. All wood veneers will expand and contract with seasonal humidity changes. A thick veneer has a greater ability to expand and contract with seasonal humidity changes. When the veneer expands and contracts more than the substrate, several problems can arise. This is  called "veneer creep" and it can only be avoided by using an exceptionally strong bond to the substrate. A PPR glue provides the bond strength that prevents creeping.

Can I use this adhesive on crotch grain veneer?
Better Bond cold press veneer glue is not recommended for crotch veneers. A plastic powdered resin glue such as Ultra-CAT is far better for challenging veneers with crotch grain.

Is this adhesive freeze/thaw stable?
Freezing will not harm this product.

What else should I know about this glue?
A medium density rubber foam roller is the best way to apply the adhesive. The rule of thumb is that the surface of the substrate should look "heavily painted" with veneer glue but not dripping wet. Always apply glue to the substrate material, not to the veneer.

Always use 80 grit sandpaper to scuff sand the substrate material. This will create the best possible bond strength.

One of the most common veneering problems is the tendency of the panel to warp after it is removed from the press. There are two easy ways to minimize this issue. The first is to veneer both sides of the panel. A backer veneer should be used on the reverse side of the substrate. This will balance the stress placed on the substrate as the glue dries and the veneer re-acclimates to the shop environment. The second step to preventing panel warp is to allow both sides of the panel to dry evenly. Support the panel with dowels on a flat surface until the glue has cured.

Unbacked maple veneer requires special attention. Avoid problems by scuff sanding the adhesive side of the maple veneer and ensuring that there is adequate clamping pressure while the glue sets up.

If this adhesive is to be used with a paper-backed veneer, be sure to thoroughly scuff the back side of the veneer before application to allow adequate penetration of the adhesive.

Some settling of content is normal and does not affect the integrity of the bond. To minimize settling, store the bottle on its side and rotate it one-half turn once a month.

Clamp/Press/Set Time: 45-60 minutes
Cure Time: 3 - 4 hours
Open Time: 10 - 12 minutes
Shelf Life: 12 months
Available Tones: Light, Medium & Dark

Why can't I clamp the veneered panel for more than 60 minutes?
Cold press adhesives cure by evaporation. In a vacuum or mechanical press, there is very little air movement at the glue line and because of this, there is very little curing. If the panel is pressed for too long, mold can form on the veneer. This is especially true with cherry and maple. Clamping for more than 60 minutes can also allow the glue to over-saturate the substrate and cause swelling. For cold press glue, always press the panel for 45 to 60 minutes and then let it cure outside of the press for 3 to 4 hours.


Product Reviews

  1. Revue from Essex, CT

    Review by Harry Bird
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    I searched around for veneer products and came upon this company. Joe was very helpful and shipped the veneer and glue promptly. All arrived 100%. I could not be more pleased. His choice of veneers is wonderful. And the website, unlike so many others, is simple and easy to use. Thanks Joe!


  2. Review from Concord, NH

    Review by Robert Claflin
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    Best veneer glue available! No mixing, easy application, appropriate set-up time, no problems. Excellent price and, as always with Joe, great service and delivery.


  3. Review from New York, NY

    Review by Terry Dote
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    I have been using this glue for veneering and even some joinery for a few years now and I like it very much. I think the tack is quick enough to allow you time to align your parts, but not quick enough that you feel you have to rush. Glue cleans up well and sticks really well. I use the light and the extra dark colors.


  4. Review from Oronogo, Missouri

    Review by Bill Stross
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    I love this glue. I've had no adhesive issues since using this product. I get perfect consistency for roller application, adequate working time, and quick clamping time. I would highly recommend this product. Also, always a quick ship and safe arrival.


  5. The Only Glue I Use

    Review by Paul Torchinsky
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    This is the only glue I use these days. I have tried several others and what I have found is that none of them work quite a well as the Better Bond stuff. I primarily use the "dark" version since most of my projects are walnut and mahogany. I'm very satisfied with this company. My orders arrive quickly and packed well.


  6. Not Just For Veneering

    Review by Sebastian K.
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    The Better Bond cold press glue is great for veneering but I recently started using it to glue up solid wood pieces. It does the job nicely and since it is darker in color, it is perfect for gluing up walnut joints.

    When I emailed the owner of this company about my findings, he replied quickly and confirmed that this is an excellent glue for generally joinery so I havent switched back to yellow glue for nearly half a year. I here now to order more.

    So what does a gallon of glue get you? You will have to figure that out but I can tell you that a gallon will do an astonishing number of projects. And for veneering, the other reviews here speak well enough to that. Indeed this glue should be in every shop (even if you are not veneering with it).


  7. Excellent Veneer Glue

    Review by Wyatt Burns
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    This is the first product review I've ever written. That alone should make a statement about how well this Better Bond glue works. I've been doing walnut burl panels on my jewelry boxes for over 10 years and I have wanted a darker glue that wasnt toxic.

    This glue is excellent. With my burl veneers, the darker color just works out perfectly. When I wrote to Joe asking about its thickness, he replied very quickly and gave me a thoughtful answer. Then when I ordered the glue, he shipped it within a couple of hours and it arrived two days later.

    As mentioned, I have never written a product review before today. This is just such a good glue that I had to do it.


  8. Perfect for Walnut and Wenge

    Review by Howie G.
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    At first, I worried that it wasnt dark enough but when it dries even darker. The final dried color is like a dark chocolate color. It's perfect for dark veneers. I've been using it for a few weeks and just ordered a gallon to replace the quart I had. On the walnut burl projects I've done, the glue worked well to fill some of the voids in the burl. I recommend this product.


  9. This Has A Great Shelf Life

    Review by Eric Randese
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    Walnut burl is much easier to prep for finishing when the glue helps fill some of the pores. I highly recommend this veneer glue for any dark veneer. It dries as hard as a other more expensive glues but this stuff is premixed and has a much better shelf life. We now buy this glue here by the case (4 gallons) and the shipping charges are respectable. Delivery times are also very good.


  10. Sands Easily

    Review by eric de kruyff
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    I have used several PVA type glues in the past for veneering, however I was amazed at just how well this glue worked with veneer. I'ts thicker than standard yellow glue, sands easier, does not bleed through nearly as much, and sets up very quickly.
    A must have for veneer projects A+++.



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